School is a waste of time
Get out while you still can!
VAUGHN TURNBULL
Opinions Writer
I’m in my last year of university at the U of S and I have slowly become closer and closer to dropping out. Is it because I’m a lazy deadbeat? Maybe, but there’s a little more to it than that.
I went into university with great expectations. I was an honour-roll student four years straight in high school and was excited at the amazing learning experience of college. But my three years at the U of S have proven to be nothing but disappointing. What I was expecting was enlightened professors with amazing insight and knowledge, interesting classes and fun experiences. I didn’t get any of these.
Professors
“Those who can’t do, teach.” This is a joke I heard a few years ago but it’s no joke at the U of S. Most professors have been in university since age 18 and have never actually gone into the “real world” they so often reference. If you were successful in your field, you would be out making lots of money at it instead of teaching moody young adults. We are being taught for the most part by people who are real world failures, not the ideal people to be instructed by, in my opinion.
Some professors have had jobs outside of teaching, but with these individuals, one must ask why they are now teaching if they could succeed in real life. Perhaps they tried and failed after a while, or maybe they just wanted the easy $100,000 a year with a nice pension. They are either quitters or lazy — shining examples for impressionable young minds.
One issue with some (but not all) professors is arrogance. The attitude of commander-in-chief that some professors have is laughable. It’s even more fun when they have the “What do you know? You’re just a kid,” approach to students. We pay their salaries and they are condescending in return. Smashing.
My favourite is if you question a prof’s statement or disagree with something they are saying. You better not bring it up in front of the class because that could hurt their feelings, which in turn will hurt your marks for the rest of the term. Oh, they’ll deny that to the death, but it’s true; profs need their egos stroked or their world comes crashing down faster than a house of cards in a hurricane.
Textbooks
95 per cent of textbooks suck. It’s not a secret. Either they’re using data from the ’80s or it seems like they were written by someone who has never had any social interaction before. There’s also the fact that they are boring; there’s way too much information just for the sake of filling pages. I guess the longer the book is, the more they can charge for it.
My favourite part of textbooks is the new edition each year with the chapter order switched around or three new pages added on. But the edition from the year before is obsolete, so don’t even think about using it. And forget about trying to sell your old texts to students, because they need the most current information to ensure a good learning experience. Ha!
Textbooks are either written by some knob from the States (or sometimes the U.K. — how exotic!) or they’re done by U of S professors. When you have a class that has a text written by the prof teaching the class, suddenly buying the text is a matter of utter importance. Cha-ching! Royalty cheque rolling in.
The texts are terrible but, despite this, probably half of the professors in the school teach directly from the text. Why am I going to class if you’re just going to regurgitate the text to me in verbal form? Because I am a good little worker bee and I do as I’m told? Or I hope to get something besides a boring read for my $600 class? Too bad I just get a book read to me in monotone. It’s like getting Microsoft Narrator to speak a textbook with some dull PowerPoint slides to boot.
Money
I’m paying $6,000 a year for classes, a few hundred for “services” and around $1,000 for books per year. Scam! We’re getting rung drier than a ShamWow on an infomercial. For rezzies and others from out of town or living on their own you can add the cost of food (or meal plans) and housing onto the whole bundle as well. Students need to work full time year round to cover these costs. A lot of us can’t though, so we rack up student loans (which won’t be easy to pay off with a history degree. Sorry, it’s true).
Once you pay all this cash for a nice piece of paper and some letters after your name you get a nice, high-paying job, right?
With a lot of degrees obtained at the U of S, you may as well have invested your tuition money in Enron. With the money we spend here they should have a job lined up for us upon exit, but we just get a kick in the pants and begin a long, difficult job hunt.
Think about what you’re paying for each class. In Term 2 there are approximately 24 lectures per course. With the course costing approximately $600 and the text at, oh say $100, that’s nearly $30 per class. For about an hour long lecture, is it really worth the money? For 30 bucks you could go see two movies at Galaxy and even get snacks for each! Even if one of the movies sucks, you’re still getting more entertainment value than a prof reading some PowerPoint slides.
Oh, sure, sure, but school isn’t about entertainment. It’s about learning and education. Let’s not lie to ourselves; there’s not much of that going on. So if we aren’t learning we should at least be entertained. And as fun as it is watching documentaries when the prof is too lazy to give a lecture; it’s just not worth the moolah.
Social life
Remember all those epic college parties in the movies? Lies! Granted these were hyped up, Hollywood versions of college, they are way more fun than real school parties. There are a few parties hosted by various groups within the university, but basically all of them are either a fundraiser for some stupid student club or just a gathering of a ton of students in a situation no different than a bar.
Take LB5Q for instance: Pay us $10 so you can take a bus to a field on a cold September night and pay $5 a drink and have mediocre local bands play while you get muddy and cold and wet (not in a good way). Oh, and add three thousand loud, rowdy drunks to bump into you, spill their drinks on you and throw up in your general vicinity; sounds like a stupendous time.
Keep in mind that I’m not an elitist; I don’t want a wine and cheese art gallery event, but the parties that go on are pretty weak. Sure, they allow beer gardens to be set up for the first week of school in the bowl, but that just nets them a wad of cash from overpriced beer sales and, let’s face it, they need something to con us into not leaving right then and there.
Social life should be a fundamental part of the college experience. At the U of S it usually consists of lame massive parties or fundraisers, house parties (just like high school!) and bonding in common areas like the Reading Room where we can complain about our shitty profs, assignments and classes. Move aside Animal House, party over here!
So why do we do it? Nothing better to do, I suppose. I think a lot of students have an idealized view of university and how they’ll get their nice jobs after graduating and be set. Wake up. Lawyers, doctors, accountants and other professionals might have a nice career path ahead of them, but most graduates can expect a flashy starting salary below $40,000. I wish you luck buying a house outside the ghetto with that minimal chunk of change.
And those aforementioned professionals can probably look forward to a repetitive job for a big corporation with the light of retirement at the end of the tunnel. Secondary education creates cookie cutter people who haven’t learned much and wasted time and money only to have a boring career until retirement or death. If that is what all the U of S recruitment advertisements said, there might be fewer applicants.
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Sheaf contributor Alex Ferwerda has written a response to this article. It was printed in the Jan. 14 issue of the Sheaf and can be viewed HERE.
The problem isn’t school itself, it’s people who finish a bachelor’s degree and then stick out their hand in expectation of a job. Maybe that shit would fly in the 50’s, but outside of Education and Law, a bachelor’s degree BY ITSELF, no matter where it’s from, is nothing more than a prerequisite, and will net you little more than a meaty minimum wage sales-assistant job. Grad school is the only thing that will turn a Bachelor’s degree into money well spent. If you can’t handle pulling off at least a 75 average, well, then you truly are wasting your money and would be better off in a trade. Seriously.
Sounds like you’ve leaned one of the big lessons in life. The only things that have meaning to you are the things you assign with meaning. I’m sorry you no longer believe in school, but just because you no longer believe in University, it doesn’t mean the promise of University is a lie.
“With the course costing approximately $600 and the text at, oh say $100, that’s nearly $30 per class. ”
$30 per class. That is not really accurate. There are office hours every week (paid for even if you dimwits don’t use them), there is the cost of grading the drivel you lopping morons write, and there is the almost endless administrivia e.g. when one of you precious snowflakes decides that YOU “deserved an A” and the nonsense of appeals and calls from you and your daddy whose special little angel could never have earned a C- or cheated.
Really the cost is not that high when you realize that the equipment for labs, or library costs for a course are actually quite high.
The only reason you can get away with getting a B and doing no really research or work for a class, and hence using very little of the resources that you pay for, is because if you little slackers got the grades you deserved there would be a riot.
But if you use the resources available, the academic journals and book in the library (or even the ones they subscribe to online) the lab equipment etc… you will get a better grade. You will learn more. AND… you will get your money’s worth.
“Grad school is the only thing that will turn a Bachelor’s degree into money well spent.”
I’ve got some bad news…
It is my experience after teaching at a lot of Universities, in Canada, the US, a few countries in Europe, and now back in Canada, that student experience overwhelmingly reflects the students’ character themselves. Your comment has a strong tone of entitlement. I expected parties, excitement, and a good job. The University isn’t handing that too me. Maybe you lack, above all, initiative. If you couldn’t find stuff to stimulate you at the U of S, maybe you should have transferred. Or is it education in general that you resent? Then perhaps you should have just gotten some job. Instead of blaming your institution and your profs–who have produced some first rate students–perhaps you should look in the mirror a little harder. You might find the reason why you’re an unemployable bore.
“Most professors have been in university since age 18 and have never actually gone into the “real world” they so often reference. If you were successful in your field, you would be out making lots of money at it instead of teaching moody young adults.”
Have you ever asked one of your professors why they got into teaching, Vaughn? Go ahead, try it sometime. I’m sure they’d be happy to tell you, and you might even learn something.
“Is it because I’m a lazy deadbeat? Maybe, but there’s a little more to it than that.”
Actually, there isn’t. You’re lazy and entitled, and you wasted your own time. It’s no one’s job to get you interested, and it never will be.
Ugh. If all students like this would drop out, the universities might be more lively. I’d certainly appreciate it.
“Most professors have been in university since age 18 and have never actually gone into the “real world” they so often reference.”
Last year, I sent out well over 120 letters for jobs in English language and literature. I got one offer. 3/4 of my colleagues did the same thing and did not get that offer (it was my third years). For every single position in my area that opens up, you can expect 400 applications, and those numbers are rising every year. When the recession hit and there was a news report of 100 people applying for a janitorial job, I thought, “This is news? That’s a gimme!” There is far more competition in academia than a self-fulfilling, prophetic failure like yourself could handle. You’re dropping out of a class of 25, after all.
“It’s even more fun when they have the ‘What do you know? You’re just a kid,’ approach to students.”
If you know it all, why are you taking classes? In fact, I have a strong sense that you don’t participate in class anyway, impending failure boy. Really, what do you know? If you had a clue, you’d be passing. The arrogance of a pimple like yourself to presume to judge someone who has spent their entire adult life devoted to studying a subject is as breathtaking as your exit from school will be unnoticed.
HJ
I was going to offer a detailed response to Vaughn’s whiny screed, but luckily I realized that Vaughn is surely an idiot. Care on with your dropping out Vaughn.
What a load of nonsense. You pay your professors’ salaries? Really? Are you signing their paychecks? Please. For the most part, salaries are negotiated through collective bargaining and have little or nothing to do with what students pay. And get over your customer-attitude already. If you want to be entertained or waited on, go out to eat or go to a theme park. College would be so much nicer without idiots like you taking up space there.
What I love about this is that if Mr. Turnbull does apply for a job a level or two above burger-flipper, the hiring folks will Google his name and this will be one of the first things they see. “Yeah, I didn’t learn much at college. But it’s their fault, there should have been more parties and stuff.”
If you showed up in my class, I’d be praying to the gods I don’t believe in that you would drop out. Yikes.
And this, ladies and gentleman, is why teaching at the college level is now so difficult.
Dude. $6K a year ($12K USD?)for a university education is a steal. Over here in the States, it’s $25K USD. And teaching is about 30% of your professor’s job. Your professors are also paid to do research and publish in their field, go to conferences to share their work, serve on University, regional, and national governance committees, evaluate colleagues’ work for publication, etc., etc., etc. It’s about 6 jobs in one, and the pay scale is terrible. We do it because we believe that thinking, reading, and writing matter — more than getting rich — though students like you make clear that not everyone is worthy of a college education.
Did you stop to think that professors may be in their positions because that’s what they wanted? Perhaps completing a PhD and teaching WAS their goal and they were not interested in getting some high-paying job outside of academia.
This article makes you sound like a whiny child.
Wow, not the brightest bulb in the box, are we? First of all, clearly you didn’t learn how to write during the course of your tenure at U of S – it’s “wrung” not “rung.”
But beyond that you seem to have absoltuely no concept of what exactly the ‘real world’ comprises of. For example, do you think people who work in non-profit sectors or in any field other than business are really going to be raking in the big bucks? On what planet? You pay their salaries? How so? Do you really think your $6,000 contributes a whit to salaries? You’re at one of the most heavily subsidized universities in the world, buddy.
“Those who don’t, teach?” Are we ten years old? Sadly, some professors actually think that students may want to learn some skills about thinking critically and understanding the world around us at a higher than fifth grade level. Clearly, however, you’re not one of these students given that your assessment of the value of university life rests on the level of similarity between your campus and that of a fictional Animal House-type scenario.
Please, do everyone a favour and drop out. The value of everyone else’s degree drops when idiots like you are conferred with one. But we know you won’t, because a know-it-all who doesn’t possess even the most basic of analytical skills is unlikely to succeed in life without that piece of paper. Because the second you open your mouth, or put pen to paper the sheer magnitude of your ignorance is going to become immediately apparent to those of us in the “real world.”
From one college student to another: this is a lazy, pretentious and frighteningly uninformed article. I mean. Wow.
“Most professors have been in university since age 18 and have never actually gone into the ‘real world’ they so often reference.” Really? REALLY? Tell me this is a joke. All tenure-track professors (and plenty of non-TT faculty) spend three times as much time in school as the “non-failures” you so admire. A PhD takes most people seven years. Give it a shot and get back to me.
“We pay their salaries and they are condescending in return”: If you take the same tact in class as you did in this article, I should hope so.
“Perhaps they tried and failed after a while, or maybe they just wanted the easy $100,000 a year with a nice pension”: The vast majority of professors, even TT, make so much less than this.
If you’ve had some truly bad professors– and I can’t rule that out, they’re out there– then that’s a bummer. But I find it difficult to believe that someone who makes such erroneous generalizations about the broader teaching community and, furthermore, demonstrates a complete underestimation of how much preparation, research and constant study goes into teaching at a university wouldn’t know a good professor at point-blank range.
Apparently people don’t gain a sense of humor in university either. On that note some things said in this article was rubbish, but some of it I have to agree with. Why did I just pay $25 for a lab manual consisting of 23 pages?
Um, do you actually think the universities control the lab manual costs? Talk to the publishers.
Because virtually every statement Turnbull made in this article is objectionable, I feel it is prudent to concentrate on one particular assertion. Turnbull’s assertion that “We are being taught for the most part by people who are real world failures, not the ideal people to be instructed by, in my opinion,” is ludicrous for X reasons.
First, who is Turnbull to claim that academia is somehow removed from the “real world”? Professors are like every other worker: they have a job which they attend regularly, they do prescribed work for prescribed pay, and they provide a service to customers. By this logic, Turnbull’s claim is invalid. To use his language, a “real world failure” can be defined as one who possesses a well-paying, highly-specialized, and in-demand job.
Second, if Turnbull would prefer to be educated by someone with a different background I should like to hear his suggested alternatives. In some cases – law, for instance, or business – academic and non-academic jobs overlap quite easily. On the other hand, instruction in many liberal arts is best left to specialists and highly-educated experts. With few exceptions these experts are PhD recipients. In my opinion, earning a doctorate is a tremendous achievement. Those who pursue a PhD often spend the best part of a decade living in relative poverty, working long days, and immersing themselves in original, difficult, and useful research. Who could possible be better to teach “moody young adults” the skills necessary for success: hard work, dedication, perseverance, critical thinking, communication, and commitment?
University professors are not abject failures and to state otherwise is an insult not only to the people holding these positions, but also the skills fundamental to success in any facet of Turnbull’s “real world.”
The poet T.S. Eliot once wrote, “We had the experience but missed the meaning.” When it comes to higher education, VT, you have missed the meaning and the experience. You are so lacking in self-awareness as to be laughable, if you weren’t too sad to be laughable.
Hey, VT.
One has to wonder what you are doing in college in the first place. Maybe you should go start your own business … or, perhaps join the military or something. Your heart’s clearly not in it, man.
Have a nice day.
;)
There’s nothing like a 20-year-old kid lecturing people twice his age about what life is like in “the real world.”
I’ve got news for you, pumpkin. The real world is going to eat you alive. Universities will put up with whiny, entitled crybabies like you, but I’ve never met an employer who would.
And as someone above said, this is going to be Google hit number one for your name from here on out, so good luck even getting a job.
My advice from the real world? Get used to this phrase: “You want fries with that?”
Great. I have to write an essay on this for sociology.
Your writing is weak and nothing more than an amateurish rant. You stopped at the high school honor roll; pick up your own slack or head back to the XBOX in mom’s basement for a few more years.
Vaughn’s right. University IS a money-grab and it almost cost me my life. Get out while you still can and start your own businesses!
I am a grad student at the university and I have TA’ed or TA many undergrad labs (at least 12 courses). In every lab, I try my best to improve my teaching and make it a positive and knowledge enriching activity for the students (I see my peer grads doing the same too). Reading the TA evaluations I find that students often just criticize you very badly; there are very few students who are appreciative of the time, effort, and enthusiasm shown on the side of the instructors. That being said, how many students actually bother to do instructor/TA evaluations? How do you expect a prof to improve their teaching skills if you don’t give any feedback?
Often you see many students texting, listening to music, sleeping, checking social networks etc in classes. How do you expect someone to give a rockstar entertainment if someone is not listening to you? And did one expect to be entertained while getting into university? I didn’t know that! University isn’t a place where you just get knowledge; its a place where one learns how to find knowledge, its not spoon feeding. Its a place for realizing your potential and making best use of it, its a place for respecting other people and their qualities and trying to make oneself a better, useful individual to the society (at least that’s the way I see about it).
Universities are moving towards getting most out of profs, and the profs have a very hard time balancing research, teaching, and professional activities. Most profs are pressurized into securing high/many research funds, and have been advised to spend more time (70%)on research and revenue generation for universities. Also, more classes are becoming online. Thus many want-to-be-prof grad students are lacking opportunities for teaching classes/giving lectures. Why are we losing these regular face-to-face courses, people like yourself who just complain and want education offered to them at “subsidized costs”. However, this removes away the chance for active learning and the element of immediate feedback during the learning process. So now the question is do we really need universities if we have a generation who cares less?
Regarding profs arrogance – I find that many of the younger students are always in a hurry. They need readymade answers, easy exams, easy assignments, open book exams etc. The profs aren’t being arrogant, instead they’re trying to test your skills and thinking and in that attempt create opportunities for self-learning/exploration. Also, how many of the students engage in active learning (asking questions, arguing profs views/thoughts) in a class room?
Dude, how did you get your honors? Seems like you’re super brilliant and can learn anything all by yourself! What are doing at the U of S? Why didn’t you try getting into Harvard, Cambridge, or Oxford? I think the profs have been very generous to pass a party-hopper like you, seriously! Your arrogance seems like you can do better than all the profs! If that’s the case, go show yourself that you can do a better job at just about everything! Go prove yourself to us!
And just so you know – profs don’t make a million bucks! Most start at $50K, and that after 2-3 years of a post-doctoral. I know in my field, the number of faculty openings is less than 3-5/year for the whole of Canada!
Also to add: I don’t know how Sheaf decided to select this article for publication? I read Sheaf to relax and learn about things happening around the univ. Now would I read the Sheaf for that, hmmm… probably not. You just spoiled all my mood!
From Rate Your Students:
(Sigh)
I’ve tried to fight this. I have a picture of a certain comic on my desk to restrain me in precisely these circumstances….
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If you think your subsidized life of attending lectures and hanging out in beer gardens is bad, wait until you graduate and need to work for a living! The horrors of campus will not begin to compare to the horrors of the cubicle, the rent payments, the unpleasant people on the city streets.
By the way, many real-world people are real-world failures as well, on some level, because they stifled their dreams. You’d be surprised how many wished they could still be in college, writing poetry, living the life of the mind, going on long trips abroad… (you know, the things professors do…)
College isn’t a life-long meal ticket. Your success or failure is in fact your own responsibility.
For instance, if you applied for a job at my organization, I would Google your name, find this essay, and immediately push for you to be turned down on the basis of immaturity and lack of writing/logic skills. FYI.
Hello folks, thanks for the tasteful replies and personal attacks. Classy. Evidently my half humour half sad truth article goes unappreciated, but I’m glad I seemingly wasted a page of the Sheaf which you fund with your student fees and gave you something to do besides “learn.” It amazes me how riled up educated individuals can get over such trivial writing done when I was bored one night. I’ll be graduating with great distinction this year and be out of your way. Cheers.
>>Vaughn Turnbull
I’d say I’d have to agree with Vaughn. It’s not because we’re lazy, it’s because we’re ambitious and want to be independent of the very thing society demands.
A Phd is not an education degree, granted I’m sure it’s hard work, after all, I am planning on getting mine one day, but I still think I lack teaching skills. Therefore I will do, but I will not teach.
As for costs, since I don’t have time to work a full time job during the academic year, I have to work a bottom of the totem pole oilfield job in the summer in order to pay for only half of a year. I am a 20-year-old female, I’d like to see a handful of my bad professors spend a summer doing what I do, and I’ll be completely honest in saying it is one of the shittiest jobs anyone could encounter.
I have been increasingly wondering why I am still in school getting a business degree… and the truth hurts, social sciences just don’t pay.
Keep up the good work, Vaughn!
First of all, if anyone is going to call out Vaughn Turnbull and curse him out, post your full name, so everyone can search for you on the net also. You have someone that wrote an article using his right to free speech to state HIS opinion of what school entitles, which may be different than your own, without hiding behind a computer screen. I see the issue from both sides of the argument, whether school is a waste or not. But, since everything has been so negative about the original article, I’m going to join the “bad guys” for this debate.
“Oh, I’m SO sorry that you might have to earn less than $40,000 a year right out of college. Some of us can actually live very comfortably on a salary in that range, and are content with the idea that we might have to work to earn more than that.”
“Maybe it’s different in Canada, but we “knobs” here in the States…”
SARAH (from Rate Your Students), you’re right, it is different in Canada than in the States. Making $40 000/yr in the states right now is enough to live comfortably in your cheap 8000 sq ft house. Where we are living in Canada, a 800 sq ft house, in a pretty shitty neighbourhood is roughly $280-295 000. So, the $35 000 you make from your history degree may not be that comfortable where the writer is from. The majority of our brilliant professors go to your country because they are offered a lot more money than the shitty $100 000/yr that our Canadian college can afford to pay them.
Your elitist attitude is quite apparent because you personally attack someone because they have different opinions than you. Your bashing of Vaughn’s writing is a little hypocritical seeing as you quoted every single word in his writing. When writing, you don’t quote a whole journal you are drawing your resources from. If you were a better writer than him as well, your quotes would have been quite limited as EVERYONE who is posting has read his article.
As a university instructor, I say, “Put those insights into action, young man. Quit now! You’re right: grown-up life sucks. Why participate in its so-called benefits? Who are all those people to tell you how to live? The sooner you go your own unique way, the sooner you will find excellence. Didn’t that dude say that all the world’s a party and all the men and women merely wanderers in search of a fresh keg? There you go. Please don’t transfer to my school, though. We can’t handle the truth.”
Nice pension? $100,000k salary? Easy work? Sign me up!
Here’s the thing. I AM a professor. My salary is barely over 40% of your imaginary figure. My department head and the dean don’t even approach $100,000. That “pension” is actually a 401k where the majority of the money being invested is deducted from my already small paycheck.
And don’t even get me started on “easy.”
How easy do you think it is to give 100% in the classroom, and then an additional 100% in institutional service, and another 100% to my research/personal projects? That’s right. As a professor, I have one low salary, a crappy retirement plan, and three full-time jobs. If I don’t do well in the classroom (as reported on your student evaluations), I don’t get tenure. If I don’t publish and present at conferences, I don’t get tenure. And if I don’t serve on committees and task forces and advise students I also don’t get tenure.
Students, you don’t see 80% of what us professors do. You have no idea how many hours we spend re-reading the textbook at 7:00 a.m. to prepare for class even though we’ve assigned this same reading for the past five semesters, calling agents to book speakers for the college lecture series during our lunch break, meeting with students all afternoon to discuss homework or scheduling problems, attending 4:30 meetings to brainstorm about how to prevent you from transferring or dropping out, and going home to grade papers at our kitchen tables for a few hours in the evening. This is my typical day. Sound easy? Because to me, it sounds like I deserve more money. Sure, I get summers off, but I make up those hours during the other 9 months of the year.
OK, correction. My salary is in US dollars. I didn’t realize this was a Canadian college. However, my salary still doesn’t approach $100,000 Canadian dollars (though the disparity is less than I had originally presumed), I do still work 3 jobs for the price of one, and Vaughn still doesn’t get it.
Wow, you all take this so seriously! School is hard and real life is hard too. I am 45 years old and a gramma…put yourself in my shoes. I am not at University to socialize and bash the academic system. I would be glad to start out with $40,000 a year. It is way more than I am getting now, and NO I am not getting paid to go to school by the tax payers!
Vaughn has right to speak his mind..so does everyone. Ethically speaking he is not hurting anyone by doing so. An opinion article is just that an opinion.
I struggle everyday to make something of my school time..I am doing homework and reading my textbooks seven days a week. I wish I had time to partake in the social life.
I am sorry if the article offended some of you but you all need to take a step back and think about what the article really says. Vaughn is going to finish school and he is going to graduate with honors, kudos to him. Worry about yourselves and not what some kid who had some free time and the ability to fluff some feathers!
For all you who said Vaughn is an idiot, Vaughn is smarter than fricken google. If i need an answer to absolutely anything I can ask him and he’ll know. No word of a lie. Quite impressive. And any professors that beaked, well you’re professors.. which means the article personally attacked you and so now you feel insecure about your careers. Not a legit reason to post long-ass comments on here defending yourselves. I mean you can, but doesn’t gain you points.
Thank you all for your comments, but this discussion has gone on too long. Comments are now closed.
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